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i'd say i have a certain amount of trepidation regarding the impending Chaos Marine Codex... - warhammer 40k
i'd say i have a certain amount of trepidation regarding the impending Chaos Marine Codex...
But i don't think they can make a book that's any worse.

That said, I'm not enthusiastic with what's being described as a reafirmation of the Gavening of the army.

I'm prepared to never play Chaos Marines again... or at least for 8the years or whatever thwe cycle is supposed to be for 6th.

Current Mood: aggravated

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lullysing From: lullysing Date: July 26th, 2012 09:08 am (UTC) (Link)
oh come on....with full on forgeworld we finally get droppods and demon engines, on top of the chaos dragon flyer. You really want to wait before selling all your figs...
blackheart666 From: blackheart666 Date: July 26th, 2012 09:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'll be painting and selling a significant part of my armies anyway. I have 3k+ of each of the Big 5 as it is... which doesn't count the several hundred chaos marines i have in boxes in the garage.

Or the 150 or so Realm of Chaos era renegades i have that are still bare metal.

It's GW... they put out at least three unadulterated cheese festivals to sell to all the Little Billy Dickfaces.... of course they're going to throw a softball and call it "Chaos".
glamwhorebunni From: glamwhorebunni Date: July 26th, 2012 09:26 am (UTC) (Link)
There's a new daemon engine, the dragon/flier, loads of Eyes of the Gods goodness, exciting USR, cheaper Cult troops (except PM), cultists... Sounds great. And 6th Ed allies means that proper daemons are back fighting alongside CSMs, hurrah!
juriskhan From: juriskhan Date: July 26th, 2012 04:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
Where did you read that from?
glamwhorebunni From: glamwhorebunni Date: July 26th, 2012 08:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
Which bit?
juriskhan From: juriskhan Date: July 26th, 2012 09:20 pm (UTC) (Link)
Everything you listed above.
blackheart666 From: blackheart666 Date: July 26th, 2012 10:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
It's on Dakkadakka and Bell of Lost Souls.
blackheart666 From: blackheart666 Date: July 26th, 2012 10:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
Allies really isn't all that great. Used them in 3 games now and all it's really accomplished is putting points of the board until reserve rolls filter them in piecemeal to die.
maneman From: maneman Date: July 26th, 2012 12:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
I've actually been playing chaos marines exclusively for the past few months now, including quite a few games in 6th. I've found that they are quite viable, and even without allies they usually tear holes in things. I'm excited as all get out for the new codex, and think they will bring an impressive amount of new fun to the army which is already chaotically fun (yeah, pun intended) to begin with.

That said, I'm ignoring rumors and just playing with what I have until I get the new 'dex. I'd suggest trying some new and things before just assuming that the world is full of gloom and doom. Termicide is alive and well, and can lay some serious hurt on armor and small units of troops (and get linebreaker points). Deep striking oblits in pairs will mess with people's deployments and give you valuable linebreaker points. True toughness 6 nurgle bikers are a nightmare to kill with anything less than plasma. Winged Daemon princes are terrific at wrecking units, especially if they are the second unit to charge in. 10 marines with an icon, champion with fist, and two melta guns (or plasma guns for more shooty units) in a havoc rhino are a fantastic troops selection for the points and excel at close-ranged firefights and assault. they still have a problem with fliers, so hopefully that will be corrected with the new 'dex. I played a friend's 5-flyer Necron list and got completely wiped off the board but I learned a lot about how fliers work and how to position myself to protect against those stupid Doom Scythes.

If after you play a little bit and discover that you still hate the army, drop me a line on here and we can talk about me picking up some of your figs. ;) Good luck!
blackheart666 From: blackheart666 Date: July 26th, 2012 09:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
Dont expect to get anything for cheap.
bladenkrath From: bladenkrath Date: July 26th, 2012 02:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
i was under the impression that kelly was writing the new chaos dex...i could be wrong tho
blackheart666 From: blackheart666 Date: July 26th, 2012 09:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes. And he's pretty much putting out "Gav Part Duex"
westrider From: westrider Date: July 26th, 2012 03:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
I just need to see what it is. One way or another.

I'm hoping it continues the pendulum trend of Chaos Dexes, but regardless, I just need to know. Can't take the uncertainty and rumour mill much longer.
westrider From: westrider Date: July 27th, 2012 02:55 am (UTC) (Link)
New bunch of supposed leaks via Faeit 212. If accurate, looks like it's more or less on par with 6th as a whole: Better than my fears, but not as good as my hopes.

Can't believe no one seems to have asked about Flakk Missiles, tho.
blackheart666 From: blackheart666 Date: July 27th, 2012 08:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
"You can do it, but you gotta pay for it"

I can see the next kiddie skittles book making marines half cost with most of their upgrades free after reading that line.
westrider From: westrider Date: July 28th, 2012 12:27 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm hoping that will end up playing out like the GK Dex, where stuff can get crazy expensive, but if you're careful with it, can still be worthwhile at that point. Having access to some upgrades that can't be sniped out (apparently including Fearless, which is awesome now) along with easier protection for the ones that can, and more reasons to take larger Squads (which makes all those upgrades more cost-efficient) looks like it might have some possibilities.

I'm also hoping that the comment about following Gav's style has more to do with it just being a fix, rather than a ground-up re-write, and comes from someone who doesn't actually understand what Gav's idiocy really meant.

Gonna have to wait til I have it in my hands and get a few Games in to really know, tho.
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